Five Reasons Your Critique Partner May Be Toxic
Guest on Jul 03 2011 | Filed under: Business
Therese here. Today’s guest is author Adrienne Giordano, whose debut romantic suspense novel, Man Law, releases tomorrow from Carina Press. (Her second book, A Just Deception, will be available in September.) Adrienne is also the co-founder of the popular Romance University blog, which is “[d]edicated to helping writers establish and advance their careers, introducing readers to a variety of authors, and delving into the ever-inscrutable male mind.” I’m thrilled Adrienne is here today to talk about dangerous critique partners. Enjoy!
Five Reasons Your Critique Partner May Be Toxic
I’ve often compared finding a good critique partner to finding a spouse. There may be plenty of first, maybe even second dates, but then the novelty wears off and you’re back to the hunt. And rightly so. You wouldn’t enter into a marriage (I hope!) with the attitude that you could always get divorced if it didn’t work out. For me, entering into a critique relationship with that attitude can be just as emotionally taxing.
Over the years, I’ve been through a few critique partners. Well, maybe more than a few, but critique dating takes time and a whole lot of patience. The one thing I can say about every critique partner I’ve had is I learned something from them. The lessons may have been along the lines of yeah-I’d-never-say-that-to-someone, but I walked away garnering something from the relationship.
After years of searching and finally (finally!) grabbing on to fabulous critique partners, there are five things I know for sure can be toxic to the relationship.
What are those five things you ask?
1. Your critique partner is unresponsive.
As someone who writes on very tight deadlines, I’m lucky to have peeps who turn my pages around in a relatively short amount of time. Just yesterday I wrote a scene and needed a fast turnaround. I fired it off to two of my crit partners and within the hour I had it back. I don’t expect that kind of response every time because that would be unreasonable, but these ladies knew I was on deadline. The time will come when I need to return the favor, and I will happily do so because they did it for me. That’s the beauty of a solid critique relationship. As a side note, we all have an agreement if we can’t turn pages around fast, we can be honest about it. No harm, no foul.
Open communication keeps the relationship honest and healthy.
Trouble begins when you have a critique partner who doesn’t communicate with you. Do you send him/her pages and never get a response? Are you then expected to turn their work around in a timely manner? If you aren’t getting as much out of the relationship as you are giving, there’s a problem.
2. Your critique partner talks negatively to others about your work.
I’ll make this one quick. If this is happening to you, don’t just run from this person, run screaming. No one has the right to tear down your work. Not to you. Not to anyone. This, in my opinion, is an absolute deal breaker. The critique relationship is a sacred thing and you don’t need someone you trust bad mouthing your work.
Two words. Run. Screaming.
3. Your critique partner’s comments paralyze your writing.
Have you had this happen? Your CP gives you feedback that is so harsh it confuses and hurts you to the point where you are physically unable to write? I had it happen once when I was part of a large critique group. One person’s critique was so nasty and degrading I couldn’t write a single word for three days. From that point on, I never read that person’s comments.
Harsh? Maybe. After all, this person took the time to review my work, and I was thankful for that, but no one has the right to be so malicious that they leave a writer unable to move forward. I always thanked the person for taking the time to review my work, but I gave myself permission to not read the comments. I simply could not risk destroying my confidence because the individual didn’t like my voice. As writers, we are allowed to shield ourselves from potentially crippling situations.
4. Your critique partner is offended when you don’t take his/her advice.
This is something that seems harmless, but if your critique partner is harboring resentment because you didn’t do everything he/she suggested, you’ve got problems. This is your work. It has your name on it. You get to protect that work in the way you see fit. As long as you’re gracious and are reciprocating in the relationship, you should not be made to feel bad about not following every bit of advice. Whenever I critique, I always like to say “I hope my suggestions help. Use what you can and disregard the rest.” That, for me, tells my partners that I won’t be offended if they don’t agree with something I’ve said. I, in turn, receive similar messages from them. It goes back to open communication. It’s understood that we all won’t follow every single morsel of advice. And that’s okay.
5. Your critique partner only offers carb-free poop sandwiches.
Okay, so maybe poop wasn’t the word I was thinking, but you know how that goes. J If you know me at all, you know what word I was thinking!
What is a carb-free poop sandwich? Well, if you’ve ever tried to eat your favorite sandwich without the bread, you know it’s just not the same. What’s great about your favorite sandwich is you get a nice fresh slice of bread, then you have all the middle stuff (I’m a burger girl myself) with all your lettuce, tomato and condiments and then another nice slice of bread. Overall, it’s a pleasurable experience.
When you get a poop sandwich, you get the nice bread all on the top and bottom, but the middle is—well—poop. If that sandwich is carb-free?
Forget it.
You’re sunk because you’re not even getting the nice bread you love so much.
What does this mean in critiquing terms? In a healthy critique relationship you’ll get some comments that tell you all the things you did right. Think of that as the nice bread. Those nice comments might be wrapped around all the things you did wrong. That’s not so bad because we need to know what’s not working so we can fix it. It helps us grow as writers.
When you get a carb-free poop sandwich, you get none of what you did right. Carb-free means your critique partner has told you all the things he/she doesn’t like, but hasn’t balanced it with things you did well. I truly believe we need both. Hearing what we did right lets us know we connected with that person using a certain technique or style and we should do more of it. If we don’t receive that feedback, we can only make assumptions. Assumptions can get us into trouble.
How about you? What experiences, good or bad, have you had re: critique?
Thanks for a great post, Adrienne! Readers, you can learn more about Adrienne and her debut novel, Man Law, on her website, and by following her on Twitter and Facebook. Write on.






















Lessons learned from critique partners, even it’s what never to say, can be pretty valuable. Great post all around. Thanks for reassuring me my current CP is the right fit for me.
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I haven’t had problems with the last 4, but I have with #1. If I need something reviewed outside of the normal crit group parameters, I will give it to one of my critiquers and say “would you be willing to read X pages for me? I need it by such and such a date so I can do the rewrites.”
The critiquer agrees to the timeframe, but then doesn’t deliver. They give great critiques when they decide to get around to it, but because they are undependable on honoring timeframes, I now go elsewhere when I need a crit.
I prefer total honesty. If I ask someone to crit for me on a deadline, I’d rather them say “Get lost. I don’t have time for you.” Rather than telling me they will then they don’t deliver.
That is very aggravating, to say the least.
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Hi BK. I agree with you. I’d rather they be honest and just say they can’t do it. At least then you know and there won’t be any hard feelings.
Thanks for stopping in!
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Adrienne,
I’m a solo writer, meaning I’m not attending college, I’m not part of a writing group and quite frankly I don’t really know too many writers. So with that said….how do I find a critique partner? For that matter how do I find writing groups to work with that will be healthy and helpful for me?
Brian
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A good writing group can be as good (or better!) than college. If you’re in the States, I’d recommend looking into ads on Craigslist. Also look in your local library, coffeeshop, and bookstore. Put up some fliers. See if there is a local meetup group. Join a book club even if you don’t really want to and see if you can meet some writers that way.
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Most areas also have writing associations or author clubs. You can also do critiques online. My best edits have happened via the web. Word has great editing settings where the partner can highlight or leave comments all through your work. You might ask around on sites like this one for people who also write in your genre.
No expert here, just working from my own experience.
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Hi, Dana! Thanks for stopping by. Glad you found the right CP. They are hard to come by. Gotta kiss a lot of frogs!
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Critique partners — such an important relationship. Too many times people seem to focus on the “critique” part of that role, and not as much on the “partner” aspect. :) I’m glad you’ve found some good ones, and your suggestions for making it work are invaluable.
Good luck with your book release tomorrow. I can’t wait to read it. :)
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Thank you, Donna. You are so right. I think people forget the “partner” aspect and partners should treat each other with respect.
Thanks for your comments on Man Law. I had a blast writing it and hope you enjoy!
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Great post, Adrienne,
I can definitely relate to #3 :(
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Thank you, Jon. Number three is a tough one. No writer should have to face that from someone they trust.
Thanks for commenting.
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I would add rule #6–Any time a critique partner comments on things about you, some aspect of you, your lifestyle, your organization skills or lack thereof, etc., not your writing, then do the two word thing. Run. Screaming.
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Ooh, good one, Jeanne. I totally agree. I have never had that happen, but I can imagine it would be quite hurtful.
Thanks for the comment.
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Good post. I think it can be just as damaging to have a crit partner who thinks everything you write is wonderful!
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Hi Wynter! Thanks for popping in to chat with a fellow Carina author!
You are so right. It’s wonderful to have the praise, but I think we learn from constructive criticism. I prefer to have a balance of both.
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Tack on: your critique partner (or writing group) isn’t using the same writing methodology or philosopy as you. You are an outliner, she is a pantser. You don’t think structure matters, she thinks it’s all-important…
There’s plenty of methodologies on the Craft of writing. Larry Brooks, Randy Ingermanson, Bell, et. al. Everyone in the group should be using the same methodolgy. Otherwise, most of the disagreements will stem from contradictory or missing parts of the writing process.
Pick one you can agree on and work with. At least that way you are both (all) working with the same underlying assumptions.
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Another great suggestion. I can see how this would be a problem. I’m a plot structure person myself and, although I don’t usually comment on actual structure of manuscripts I read, I do comment on pacing. I’d imagine if you combine a die-hard pantser and a die-hard plotter, things could get tense.
Makes me wonder if we shouldn’t “interview” potential critique partners to make sure we’re compatible.
Thanks for stopping by, Bruce!
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Mike took one look at the title of your post today and said: “I hope she isn’t talking about you” – LOL.
I’ve also found that sometimes critique relationships simply fade away like marriages when you no longer have anything in common. In that case, nothing in particular is wrong, but it makes sense to remain friendly with them so they understand it wasn’t a split based on hard feelings.
So glad I have a fab core set of CPs!
Kelsey
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Speaking of great critique partners, here’s one now! :)
Tell Mike to have a little faith. Yeesh. I’ve also experienced CP’s fading away for one reason or another. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. If we’re not learning from each other anymore and can remain friendly, there’s no harm done.
That being said, you’re not going anywhere, sister!
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choked a little on my diet coke at the poop sandwich stuff… ha!
I’m in an online critique group now that has a nice mix of critique styles. Everyone is very nice–no poop sandwiches, and some tend to find the nits while others focus on the bigger, “now why would she do that?” questions.
If there’s any problem in the group, it’s that there are times that the critique comes back a little heavy on the “great job!” and not quite heavy enough on the stuff that needs fixing. However, seeing as how they’ve been nudging me along on a first draft, encouragement to finish was probably what I needed the most. It will be interesting now that I’m starting on another draft to see if the critiques toughen up when I start sending them more finished stuff…
Great post-thanks!
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Hi Melissa. Thanks for stopping by. It sounds like your critique group is working for you. What’s nice about the large groups is you get different perspectives. I found that very helpful in the early drafts of books, but in the end, decided I needed a smaller group that could read big chunks of pages to see if I’d missed any plotting issues.
I think we learn what type of critique parnters/groups work for us as we grow.
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Oh yes, I’ve experienced the critters fading away thing a lot on internet based crit groups.
The best longevity I’ve had w/crit partners has been my local and in person group.
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I enjoyed this article. Any tips on how to find a critique group? Thanks!
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Hi Kari. My recommendation is to ask some of your writer friends if they know of any good critique groups. Try and find out as much as you can about the group to know if it’ll be a good fit.
Also, if you are a member of any writing communities you can ask there as well. I’m a member of RWA and my local chapter has critique nights. I’m also a member of several online writer organizations and they also have critique groups. Start asking around. I’ll bet you’ll find something.
Good luck with the search!
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I feel so lucky to have fallen into a fantastic critique group. The group is diverse. The writers are talented. Each member is genuinely interested in helping fellow group members to create the best story possible.
Being part of my critique group has been such a wonderful experience that I sometimes chide myself for not joining a group earlier. But then, I probably wouldn’t have found the group I’m in now.
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Thanks for stopping by Roxanne. It’s wonderful that you found the group you did. For me, the critique experience should be a positive one and it sounds like you’ve got it!
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I think most of us have run into the poop sandwich CP at one time or another. Either they’re so focused on the “critique” aspect that they plumb forget to mark some goods, or they’re the kind of person who equated compliments to coddling and think they’re the arbiters of tough love. And sometimes they’re the same people who leave you paralyzed.
As critiquers, we need to remind ourselves every so often that it’s not what you say, but how you say it. If you present good advice in a condescending, tactless way, the person you’re critiquing is less likely to take it.
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Well said, Carlye. I think people sometimes forget about good old common courtesy.
Thanks for commenting!
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Congrats on the book launch, and thanks for the great article Adrienne!
I have a friend who I share my critiques with, and my friend gets upset and says the crit-giver is wrong, then I play devil’s advocate and point out why the criticism may be valid. It’s a bizarre way to decide what changes to make, but kinda fun. Perhaps by having someone else defend my work, I can be more objective.
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Thanks, Tamara.
I don’t think there’s a right or wrong process when it comes to critiques. I can see how talking it through with someone can clarify things.
Thanks for commenting!
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Eep! I know that I am incredibly fortunate with my crit partners, but this list gave me a good reality check on my own behavior. (Not that I’m horrid or anything!) Thanks for the reminder that we have to hold ourself to the same standards that we hold our writing buddies to.
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Thanks for stopping, Kristan. Glad you found the article helpful!
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Thanks to the Writer Unboxed crew for having me today. I enjoyed everyone’s comments!
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Another critique pitfall, which isn’t necessarily toxic, but isn’t always helpful, is when your group doesn’t push you hard enough or in the directions you want to go.
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Hi Adrienne,
Great insight! I loved the part about the ‘poop’ sandwiches. I will never view critiquing the same again. As for me, I’m all about the carbs!
Happy release day!
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Really good thoughts on critique partners. I’ve experienced all of these over the years and I’m still trying to find my fit! Hopefully I’m getting close!
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Great post! I recognize #3 – and I’m so grateful that person is no longer part of my life. I am truly blessed with a wonderful critique group now. Five of us have met twice a month for years and the mix of styles and personalities seems to work for each of us. You mentioned a large group – when we take on more writers, we flounder.
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Adrienne,
This is a great and very helpful post on so many levels. Not only does it help verify the need for crit partners who align with your 1-5 list, but it also reminds us that finding crit partners is often a long process. Thank you for sharing! And congrats on your new releases.
-Jennifer
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Hah! It’s funny that you consider the bread the good part of the sandwich in your wonderful analogy.
Otherwise this is excellent advice. I’ve only ever had to move one from one CP, and he was never as bad as any of this, but it is a rather critical relationship. Get it?
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