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	<title>Comments on: Amazon, Macmillan, and a Kindle Touch?</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131069</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(This is a different Steve than the one who posted above).

I have felt for a while that Amazon is obsessed with controlling the reader&#039;s relationship with the content in a way that was not possible in the world of print books. Notably this is seen by the &quot;locked down&quot; nature of the Kindle and the capability of remotely removing content from the device. 

The Macmillan fiasco appears to reflect that same obsession with control, in a somewhat different form. We had words for people like this in the sixties. The mildest is &quot;control freak&quot;. Most of the others would not be appropriate in a blog where civility is valued. 

Let&#039;s just say I don&#039;t think the megacorps are our friends.

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This is a different Steve than the one who posted above).</p>
<p>I have felt for a while that Amazon is obsessed with controlling the reader&#8217;s relationship with the content in a way that was not possible in the world of print books. Notably this is seen by the &#8220;locked down&#8221; nature of the Kindle and the capability of remotely removing content from the device. </p>
<p>The Macmillan fiasco appears to reflect that same obsession with control, in a somewhat different form. We had words for people like this in the sixties. The mildest is &#8220;control freak&#8221;. Most of the others would not be appropriate in a blog where civility is valued. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say I don&#8217;t think the megacorps are our friends.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: asrai</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131064</link>
		<dc:creator>asrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In no way does the price Amazon sets affect what McMillian gets or what the author gets. 

There isn&#039;t just shipping and printing invovled in making a book. But editing, covers, etc are in the print cost. As consumers see it, ebooks cost little to nothing. So, they don&#039;t want to pay $15, or even $10 for something they can&#039;t resell later. 

Yep this is hurting author&#039;s in the short term. But this is very important for readers, writers, publishers, editors, agents in the long term. 

Everyone invovled is still trying to figure out the new technology. Look at the mp3 and record label debacle. They will never recover.

http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2010/02/what-should-e-book-cost.html

http://ireaderreview.com/2010/02/03/things-publishers-will-do-to-kill-ebooks/

http://aprillhamilton.blogspot.com/2010/01/amazon-v-macmillan-authors-are-you.html
.-= asrai&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://comingalive.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/writing-success/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Writing Success&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In no way does the price Amazon sets affect what McMillian gets or what the author gets. </p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t just shipping and printing invovled in making a book. But editing, covers, etc are in the print cost. As consumers see it, ebooks cost little to nothing. So, they don&#8217;t want to pay $15, or even $10 for something they can&#8217;t resell later. </p>
<p>Yep this is hurting author&#8217;s in the short term. But this is very important for readers, writers, publishers, editors, agents in the long term. </p>
<p>Everyone invovled is still trying to figure out the new technology. Look at the mp3 and record label debacle. They will never recover.</p>
<p><a  href="http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2010/02/what-should-e-book-cost.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2010/02/what-should-e-book-cost.html</a></p>
<p><a  href="http://ireaderreview.com/2010/02/03/things-publishers-will-do-to-kill-ebooks/" rel="nofollow">http://ireaderreview.com/2010/02/03/things-publishers-will-do-to-kill-ebooks/</a></p>
<p><a  href="http://aprillhamilton.blogspot.com/2010/01/amazon-v-macmillan-authors-are-you.html" rel="nofollow">http://aprillhamilton.blogspot.com/2010/01/amazon-v-macmillan-authors-are-you.html</a><br />
.-= asrai&#180;s last blog ..<a  href="http://comingalive.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/writing-success/" rel="nofollow">Writing Success</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese Walsh</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131059</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristan, thanks so much for responding to Steve.
 
Steve, I agree completely with what Kristan has said here; it&#039;s not about the money so much as it is about disapproving of this tactic by Amazon (namely stripping Buy links to books as a means of &quot;punishing&quot; or even trying to control the publisher). It&#039;s not fair to the publisher--who should have the right to control pricing on their intellectual properties--and it&#039;s definitely not fair to the authors.

All that said, it looks like Amazon is putting those links back right NOW! Thanks to PW for the update:
http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6717892.html?desc=topstory  So glad this is nearing some sort of resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristan, thanks so much for responding to Steve.</p>
<p>Steve, I agree completely with what Kristan has said here; it&#8217;s not about the money so much as it is about disapproving of this tactic by Amazon (namely stripping Buy links to books as a means of &#8220;punishing&#8221; or even trying to control the publisher). It&#8217;s not fair to the publisher&#8211;who should have the right to control pricing on their intellectual properties&#8211;and it&#8217;s definitely not fair to the authors.</p>
<p>All that said, it looks like Amazon is putting those links back right NOW! Thanks to PW for the update:<br />
<a  href="http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6717892.html?desc=topstory" rel="nofollow">http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6717892.html?desc=topstory</a>  So glad this is nearing some sort of resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, there are SO many things that go into a book besides printing and shipping.

Note also that we are not upset about the pricing, but about the fact that Amazon is hurting both writers and readers (and a lot of people in between) by refusing to directly sell Macmillan&#039;s titles right now.
.-= Kristan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/kristanhoffman/~3/77LzD8EXjeU/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The wordy nerdy halfie chameleon&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, there are SO many things that go into a book besides printing and shipping.</p>
<p>Note also that we are not upset about the pricing, but about the fact that Amazon is hurting both writers and readers (and a lot of people in between) by refusing to directly sell Macmillan&#8217;s titles right now.<br />
.-= Kristan&#180;s last blog ..<a  href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/kristanhoffman/~3/77LzD8EXjeU/" rel="nofollow">The wordy nerdy halfie chameleon</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131051</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess all you people against Amazon in this just love paying extra money for things.

Sorry, I know everyone should earn something for their efforts but $15+ for something they don&#039;t have to print or ship is just ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess all you people against Amazon in this just love paying extra money for things.</p>
<p>Sorry, I know everyone should earn something for their efforts but $15+ for something they don&#8217;t have to print or ship is just ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131038</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the piece in The Guardian, so I see they are playing games at the expense of Macmilllan and its authors. Sigh. Will consider removing Amazon buying links from my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the piece in The Guardian, so I see they are playing games at the expense of Macmilllan and its authors. Sigh. Will consider removing Amazon buying links from my website.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131037</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope people do remember it and use alternative online retailers. This is a shameful case of big business bullying, in which the writers seem to come last. 

Most of my backlist was published in the US by Tor, so I am affected by this, but it&#039;s those writers like Meyers, with novels just out, who will suffer most. 

I thought I&#039;d read somewhere that Amazon had capitulated, but our books are still missing from the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people do remember it and use alternative online retailers. This is a shameful case of big business bullying, in which the writers seem to come last. </p>
<p>Most of my backlist was published in the US by Tor, so I am affected by this, but it&#8217;s those writers like Meyers, with novels just out, who will suffer most. </p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d read somewhere that Amazon had capitulated, but our books are still missing from the site.</p>
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		<title>By: thea</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131032</link>
		<dc:creator>thea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sure borders and barnes and noble could use the biz.  i think using this controversy to publicize a book is a great idea. call the newspapers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sure borders and barnes and noble could use the biz.  i think using this controversy to publicize a book is a great idea. call the newspapers!</p>
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		<title>By: Therese Walsh</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2010/02/04/amazon-kindle-macmillan/#comment-131030</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary, she is (smart and finding ways to work it to her advantage): http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/feb/04/authors-fight-macmillan-battle-amazon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary, she is (smart and finding ways to work it to her advantage): <a  href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/feb/04/authors-fight-macmillan-battle-amazon" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/feb/04/authors-fight-macmillan-battle-amazon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Bolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of stuff generates such ill-will toward the distributor (Amazon).  People will remember this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of stuff generates such ill-will toward the distributor (Amazon).  People will remember this.</p>
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