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Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketOne of my dear critique buddies told me something I didn’t want to hear a few weeks ago.

“Your hero…he sounds kinda like a girl.”

“No. No, really?”

“Yeah. Sorry!”

Uh oh.

This wasn’t something I could just let go, but I wasn’t sure how to fix it either. Toss the MS to my husband and beg him to “Y” up my dialogue in exchange for a case of Guinness? Add liberal doses of profanity, talk of oil changes, football, jackhammers? Chuck the whole thing and decide I really am a damned good nonfiction writer and who needs this crap anyway?

Then I remembered, I can’t quit. What would the WU readers think of me? What would my critique buddies do to me? Kick my butt all the way to Kansas, that’s what. And, with all respect to Dorothy, I don’t want to live in Kansas.

A vague memory floated into my skull. A program. Wasn’t there a program somewhere out there that could determine if the author was male or female? Maybe I could use it to my advantage.

After a little digging in my research file, I rediscovered The Gender Genie at bookblog.net. The Genie is a pretty cool research-based program that accurately predicts the gender of an author via excerpt about 90% of the time. Pretty impressive stats. But how does it work?

There are writing strategies specific to each gender, according to the researcher whose work spawned the Genie. So when the Genie analyzes a chunk of text, it searches for key words before predicting whether the author is male or female.

It made sense to me that, even though I’m female, isolating male dialogue should get the genie to predict “male.” SHOULD is the operative word here. Here’s what happened.

I took a chunk of my hero’s dialogue and stuck it in the Genie.

GIRL, it said. Your hero is a damned girl.

Fine. I went through the fairly painful process of IDing ALL of my hero’s dialogue and putting THAT in the Genie.

GIRL, it said. Your hero is still a damned girl. Just more of one.

Alrighty then. I took a very close look at just what made my hero X-bent instead of Y-bent like I wanted him to be. Here’s what it came down to, and I’m swiping this nice summary from a New York Times article on this program:

…what the gender-identifying algorithm picks up on is that women are apparently far more likely than men to use personal pronouns — ‘’I,'’ ‘’you'’ and ‘’she'’ especially. Men, on the other hand, prefer so-called determiners — ‘’a,'’ ‘’the,'’ ‘’that,'’ ‘’these'’ — along with numbers and quantifiers like ‘’more'’ and ‘’some.'’ What this suggests, according to Moshe Koppel, an author of the Israeli project, is that women are more comfortable talking or thinking about people and relationships, while men prefer to contemplate things.

Even though this program was intended to ID the gender of an author and not meant for dialogue, why the heck shouldn’t it work? My guy needed to sound like a guy. Why not strip him of his girlish pronoun habit (which really was profound), and give him more quantifiers and determiners in each graph? It was a place to start, at any rate.

I honed in on the GUY and GIRL words Genie uses when analyzing text and wrote them out on two lists: words to use, and words to avoid unless Noel, my hero, was going to be turned into Noelle.

Here, the short list of guy-friendly words:

A
As
At
It
To
The
These
Above
Around
Below
More
Many
What
Who
Are
Is
Said

And here, the short list of words to avoid:

Me
Not
She
Where
Was
And
Be
With
Your
If
Should

So I’ve been pouring over dialogue. Taking out girlish words, adding manly ones.

But that’s not all I’ve been doing to makeover my guy. I’m trying harder to stay true to the Martian rules. Though there’ll always be exceptions, psych experts say that most men:

* prefer to offer solutions instead of sympathy
* talk, not because they like to, but to exchange information
* ask questions when they hit upon a problem
* don’t like to talk about their feelings, especially with emotional language

I worked and worked until I was pretty happy with the new ‘tude coming out of my guy. When I read his sentences aloud, he sounded like he wore pants. But I wasn’t going to trust MY judgment.

I gathered the text, stuck it in the Genie, and held my breath.

Finally, it said, you have a boy. Congratulations.

No chocolate cigars yet, though. We’ll see what my critique buddies have to say.

Write on, all!

10 Responses to “Turning Xs into Ys: Guy Talk that Works”

  1. on 09 Oct 2007 at 8:44 am Nonny

    I wouldn’t place a lot of stock in that generator. I put several stories through that a while back, and the damn thing consistently told me I had a dick. *glances down* Nope, still haven’t sprouted one.

    As for whether or not your character sounds like a guy, your best bet is to find a couple of male writers and ask their opinion. Also keep in mind there’s pretty wide spectrum; a “beta” male isn’t going to be as stereotypical in communication and mannerism as your normal “alpha.”

  2. on 09 Oct 2007 at 8:56 am Therese Walsh

    Hi, Nonny. Points taken. My hero is half-British and definitely leans beta; and he still does, after his dialogue makeover.

    There’s a whole page of complaints about the genie on BookBlog’s site HERE. But I think this approach has worked for me, fwiw.

  3. on 09 Oct 2007 at 9:47 am LJCohen

    Thank you for the discussion and the link. I describe my experience with the genie in a blog post here:

    http://ljcbluemuse.blogspot.com/2007/10/pov-gender-and-voice.html

    It was interesting because I am currently writing a novel that alternates POV b/w a man and a woman. The genie got it right 8 out of 8 tries when I ran 4 scenes from each POV through it.

    At least I have 2 distinct voices. :)

  4. on 09 Oct 2007 at 9:50 am Kathleen Bolton

    WoW! Now I’m curious about my dialogue. I’m going to give it a whirl.

    Love the Constanza pix…that reminds me of the Kramer’s Bro (a bra for guys). Talk about gender ambiguity! :-0

  5. on 09 Oct 2007 at 1:23 pm theamcginnis

    great blog! i have found initiating discussions with teenage boys to have greatly helped my ability to ‘alpha up’ the manly dialogue. eavesdropping on male conversations or observing interactions among men while watching sports is also helpful. i think its easier to understand them, then to get them to understand you!!!

  6. on 09 Oct 2007 at 2:23 pm Eric

    This is all so funny. :)

    I hope I don’t have problems with my female characters.

  7. on 09 Oct 2007 at 4:19 pm Ray Rhamey

    Now THIS is a useful post! Not only was your experience fun to read, I learned a lot. I’ll be trying it out on one of my wips in which the primary protagonist is female.

    Thanks,

    Ray

  8. on 09 Oct 2007 at 10:53 pm Georgie Lee

    I always have my husband read my work and he’s good about telling me when I’ve made a man sound like a woman. I enjoyed playing with the generator and I learned my writing quickly betrays my gender.

  9. on 10 Oct 2007 at 8:51 am Therese Walsh

    It is kinda funny, isn’t it, Eric? But twenty minutes inside your head and I wouldn’t have these issues. ;)

    Congrats, LJ, for the success on capturing the “male essence” in your dialogue!

    Seek out teenage boys to eavesdrop on. Thanks, Thea. But I think all the seats near the hole in the girls’ locker room wall are already taken. Ha.

    Hubby’s reading my stuff, too, Georgie, but he’s never put up a red flag. One thing that helped me see what critique buddy saw was reading the dialogue out loud. The hero sounded cardboard stock.

    Thanks, Ray! I thought we were due for a craft post.

  10. on 16 May 2008 at 10:19 pm Sal Marino

    In my book, Guy Talk, Girl Talk there is no doubt about the gender of the characters, with the exception of one chapter which outlines an experience with a transitional individual. I wonder what the Genie would have done there? Other than that, I don’t believe there is any question. The book is far too macho for doubt…

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