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	<title>Comments on: Unhappily Ever After</title>
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		<title>By: thea mcginnis</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2007/01/22/unhappily-ever-after/comment-page-1/#comment-3320</link>
		<dc:creator>thea mcginnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, i&#039;m being perfectly frank here:  i have never watched Dances with Wolves because of the subject matter.  I dread Civil War stories for the same reason - i know there is no happy ending.  Even Gone With The Wind didn&#039;t have a happy ending even though it was a great ending.  But,  on the other hand, I don&#039;t regret reading Sophie&#039;s Choice, even though the story was horrendous.  But it was worth the read, for the sheer joy of the written word, woven by a great author.  So, even though i love HEAs, sometimes we must take the risk and read a book for the pure joy of the read.  I guess I&#039;m telling you to buy the book, ter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, i&#8217;m being perfectly frank here:  i have never watched Dances with Wolves because of the subject matter.  I dread Civil War stories for the same reason &#8211; i know there is no happy ending.  Even Gone With The Wind didn&#8217;t have a happy ending even though it was a great ending.  But,  on the other hand, I don&#8217;t regret reading Sophie&#8217;s Choice, even though the story was horrendous.  But it was worth the read, for the sheer joy of the written word, woven by a great author.  So, even though i love HEAs, sometimes we must take the risk and read a book for the pure joy of the read.  I guess I&#8217;m telling you to buy the book, ter!</p>
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		<title>By: Elena Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love HEA but can also love stories with bittersweet endings as long as there&#039;s a point.  In Romeo&amp;Juliet type stories the feuding parties share the sorrow of the tragedy and (one hopes) learn from it.  In The Time Traveler&#039;s Wife we know Clare and Henry cherish each moment together, as we all should.

The story I hated in school was Ethan Frome.  At least at the time I felt there was no point to the suffering.  Maybe if I were to reread it...no, there are already too many other books beckoning from my TBR list!

Bryan, it&#039;s interesting what you say about HEA helping to sell books.  I am seeing the opposite in my book discussion group.  Prevalent themes include illness, death, dysfunctional families, the plight of women in 3rd world countries.  I get the feeling that some feel the HEA common in popular fiction is somehow less worthy.  

As for me, I&#039;ve enjoyed broadening my reading but I go back to romance novels in between for balance and relief.  I cannot say it better than Jennifer Crusie did in her article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jennycrusie.com/essays/gleeandsympathy.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glee and Sympathy&lt;/a&gt; (hope this link comes through OK).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love HEA but can also love stories with bittersweet endings as long as there&#8217;s a point.  In Romeo&amp;Juliet type stories the feuding parties share the sorrow of the tragedy and (one hopes) learn from it.  In The Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife we know Clare and Henry cherish each moment together, as we all should.</p>
<p>The story I hated in school was Ethan Frome.  At least at the time I felt there was no point to the suffering.  Maybe if I were to reread it&#8230;no, there are already too many other books beckoning from my TBR list!</p>
<p>Bryan, it&#8217;s interesting what you say about HEA helping to sell books.  I am seeing the opposite in my book discussion group.  Prevalent themes include illness, death, dysfunctional families, the plight of women in 3rd world countries.  I get the feeling that some feel the HEA common in popular fiction is somehow less worthy.  </p>
<p>As for me, I&#8217;ve enjoyed broadening my reading but I go back to romance novels in between for balance and relief.  I cannot say it better than Jennifer Crusie did in her article on <a href="http://www.jennycrusie.com/essays/gleeandsympathy.php" rel="nofollow">Glee and Sympathy</a> (hope this link comes through OK).</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Catherman</title>
		<link>http://writerunboxed.com/2007/01/22/unhappily-ever-after/comment-page-1/#comment-3308</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Catherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The H.E.A. ending works sometimes.  I don&#039;t care for it in the sports glory story because it&#039;s too predictable. I like the trade-off ending like the ones you describe here.  But sometimes, I need a good old fashioned Butch Cassidy going out in a blaze of glory ending. I enjoy the story that requires the reader to think about the ending a little.  It&#039;s nice to have an un-H.E.A. ending from time to time.  

However, I wonder if this reduces the chances of having a good-selling novel.  Do the happy endings help friends recommend books to other friends?  I wonder if this is why we don&#039;t see as many Of Mice and Men or Lord of the Flies these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The H.E.A. ending works sometimes.  I don&#8217;t care for it in the sports glory story because it&#8217;s too predictable. I like the trade-off ending like the ones you describe here.  But sometimes, I need a good old fashioned Butch Cassidy going out in a blaze of glory ending. I enjoy the story that requires the reader to think about the ending a little.  It&#8217;s nice to have an un-H.E.A. ending from time to time.  </p>
<p>However, I wonder if this reduces the chances of having a good-selling novel.  Do the happy endings help friends recommend books to other friends?  I wonder if this is why we don&#8217;t see as many Of Mice and Men or Lord of the Flies these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gist I get from books and everyone else is that it&#039;s okay to have an unhappy ending as long as there is some kind of tradeoff. Your Casablanca example is spot on. Rick doesn&#039;t get the girl, but he does come away with something--at the very least a good feeling about the future.

The hero doesn&#039;t always get what they want. They might get something better in a more down-to-earth way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gist I get from books and everyone else is that it&#8217;s okay to have an unhappy ending as long as there is some kind of tradeoff. Your Casablanca example is spot on. Rick doesn&#8217;t get the girl, but he does come away with something&#8211;at the very least a good feeling about the future.</p>
<p>The hero doesn&#8217;t always get what they want. They might get something better in a more down-to-earth way.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Marsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love HEA&#039;s. In fact, I get pretty depressed if I read a book where it&#039;s NOT HEA. Since I like to read mostly for escapist reasons (unless it&#039;s my history books on WW2 which yeah, did NOT end on a happy note for lots of people), then I want a HEA, I want to feel good when I finish reading the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love HEA&#8217;s. In fact, I get pretty depressed if I read a book where it&#8217;s NOT HEA. Since I like to read mostly for escapist reasons (unless it&#8217;s my history books on WW2 which yeah, did NOT end on a happy note for lots of people), then I want a HEA, I want to feel good when I finish reading the book.</p>
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